[USML Announce] NOTICE OF HOT WAX SEAL

Sun May 13 11:50:33 EDT 2007

Can't andy simply activate and trade eff. today and let's be over with this
already?

On 5/13/07, Richard E. Robbins <RERobbins at itinker.net> wrote:
>
>  That's an interesting observation Jim.
>
> Are you suggesting that we specifically rejected what Andy seeks and that
> he needs to activate Sweeney and then wait a week before trading him to
> Brad?
>
> -- Rich
>
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> *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Jim Barrett
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 13, 2007 10:56 AM
> *To:* USML Announcements
> *Subject:* RE: [USML Announce] **NOTICE OF HOT WAX SEAL**
>
>  These were the options.  I voted for 2A but 2B won.
>
> 2A.  Amend the USML Constitution by adding the following provision:
>
>  "From the commencement of the USML auction until June 1, if a player
> whose USML contract is not running is traded, that player will be deemed to
> be in the first year of his USML contract without regard to whether the
> acquiring owner rosters the player."
>
> 2B.  Amend the constitution by adding the following provision:
>
> "From the commencement of the USML auction until June 1, a team can not
> trade a player whose USML contract is not running."
>
>
> *Jim Barrett <chicagojab at yahoo.com>* wrote:
>
> I believe if you review the history, you'll see that I proposed the
> variant that the team trading the player away did not need to activate the
> prospect before the trade, provided that the acquiring team did so on
> receipt.  However, when we did the actual voting, my variant was not
> approved.  Rather, the winning variant was the "simpler" version
> that required the player's contract had to be running at the time of trade.
>
>
> *"Richard E. Robbins" <RERobbins at iTinker.net>* wrote:
>
> Me and Justice Scalia . . .
>
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> *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Andrew R. Klein
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:23 AM
> *To:* USML Announcements
> *Subject:* Re: [USML Announce] **NOTICE OF HOT WAX SEAL**
>
> Are you ignoring Jim Barrett's personal proclamations concerning the
> Barrett Rule?  You're probably the type that ignores Thomas Jefferson's
> statements concerning the Constitution ...
>
> Richard E. Robbins wrote:
>
> Legislative history?
>
> You might also recall that I circulated four possible variations of text
> for this rule that dealt with this issue specifically, however, in order to
> simplify things given the compressed time period in which we acted, I
> believe Jeff circulated the simplest variant.  Gee, maybe we should allow
> more time to fuss with rules.  Naah -- it's more fun this way.  (grin)
>
> -- Rich
>
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> *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net<announce-bounces at usml.net>]
> *On Behalf Of *Andrew R. Klein
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:00 AM
> *To:* USML Announcements
> *Subject:* Re: [USML Announce] **NOTICE OF HOT WAX SEAL**
>
> On the merits, I have no preference either way -- for this trade or future
> trades.  My recollection is that the creator of the rule -- Jim Barrett --
> suggested that players could be activated by the receiving team.
>
> I will amend my usmltrans message on the assumption that the trade goes
> through this week, as that seems to be the consensus (Doug
> notwithstanding).  Brad -- don't forget to activate Sweeney!!!
>
> -Andy
>
>
> jhwinick at aol.com wrote:
>
> I agree with Rich on this one. It seems to me that as long as there is a consensus, either rule would be fine.     Is anyone else entertained (but not surprised) that its these   two gentlemen that are testing the parameters of the
>  new rule?     Jeff   Sent from my BlackBerry(r) wireless handheld      -----Original Message-----  From: "Richard E. Robbins" <RERobbins at iTinker.net> <RERobbins at iTinker.net>  Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 07:27:34   To:"'USML Announcements'" <announce at usml.net> <announce at usml.net>  Subject: RE: [USML Announce] **NOTICE OF HOT WAX SEAL**    I don't have a strong view either way on this one.    New Section 12.13 doesn't clearly address the matter.    I wouldn't object to permitting the activation of a player whose contract  isn't running to be coincident with the trade.    -- Rich     -----Original Message-----  From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net>]   On Behalf  Of Andrew R. Klein  Sent: Sunday, May
>  13, 2007 6:04 AM  To: USML Announcements  Subject: Re: [USML Announce] **NOTICE OF HOT WAX SEAL**    It occurs to me that this trade might not be effective until next Sunday, as  Sweeney's contract will not be "running" until today at noon.      Commissioners ... a ruling please.  I have Sweeney set to go active today.  Does that mean he is a Riptorn this week or next week?    -Andy    Andrew R. Klein wrote:
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> Happy Mother's Day.    The Klein Nine trades Ryan Sweeney to the Riptorns for Hammern' Hank   Blalock.    -Andy  _______________________________________________  announce mailing list  announce at usml.net  http://lists.usml.net/mailman/listinfo/announce
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