SPAM Re: SPAM Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun

Wed Aug 6 20:24:39 EDT 2008

Kerbs, I accept your bet!!  May the best team win.
Brad

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Brad Jansen <bljansen at gmail.com> wrote:

> let me take a closer look at the numbers
> with those kind of stakes you must be feeling pretty cocky about your
> chances....
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 6:52 PM, <springkerb at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Lunch at the Goat says I beat you.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Brad Jansen <bljansen at gmail.com>
>> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
>> Sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 5:29 pm
>> Subject: Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>
>>  ...and when all is said and done and the dust settles wherever it may, I
>> think Jeff W. deserves some thanks for trying to resolve this stuff fairly
>> and equitably....
>> ..and as for you, Kerbs, I don't care how many "closers" you obtain with
>> your ill-gotten FAAB, I will pass you by year's end, Adam Jones willing.....
>>
>> --Everyday Brad Lee
>>
>>
>> On 8/6/08, jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I won't be able to make any changes until I have a chance to talk to Mark
>>> Blocker, since at least as of this moment I don't appear to have
>>> commissioner access.  As soon as I have access, I'll have the changes made.
>>>
>>> With this week's FAAB period coming up, I would ask people to please not
>>> make contingent bids and, in particular, not to make contingent bids of the
>>> sort that Jim made last week (i.e. multiple bids totalling more than your
>>> budget and tied to different players).  T hanks.
>>>
>>> The Acting Commish
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: springkerb at aol.com
>>> To: announce at usml.net
>>> Sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 5:18 pm
>>> Subject: Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>>
>>>  Now that we decided all of this, are salaries and FAAB budgets going to
>>> be updated this week?
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: bbuddhas at aol.com
>>> To: announce at usml.net
>>> Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 9:59 pm
>>> Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>>
>>>
>>>  If you're interested in league unanimity why did you say you consider
>>> Rick a reasonable man??
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Brad Jansen <bljansen at gmail.com>
>>> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
>>> Sent: Tue, 5 Aug=2 02008 4:41 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>>
>>>  Since I consider Rick a reasonable man I'll go 1 to 1 in interest of
>>> league unanimity....
>>>
>>>  On 8/5/08, rickgam at comcast.net <rickgam at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Greetings;
>>>      Sorry, just returned last night from the land of intermittent
>>> internet access.  Though I appreciate Brad's sentiment, in the end I would
>>> have voted 1 and 1.
>>>    Rick
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message --------------
>>> From: bbuddhas at aol.com
>>>
>>> 1 and 1
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: JOHN FRUIT, FAF ADVISORS <jfruit1 at bloomberg.net>
>>> To: announce at usml.net
>>> Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:20 am
>>> Subject: RE: [USML Annou nce] FAAB Fun
>>>
>>>   I also vote for 1 and 1....jf
>>>  =0 A
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Richard Robbins <announce at usml.net>
>>> At: 8/04 10:17:42
>>>
>>> Thanks for framing the issues and the vote.
>>> I vote for 1 and 1.
>>> Let's get through this as rapidly as we can and then move on.
>>> As an aside, I am in accord with Jeff's suggestion at the end as well.&n
>>> bsp;
>>> -- Rich
>>>
>>>  _____
>>> From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net<announce-bounces at usml.net?>]
>>> On Behalf
>>> Of jhwinick at aol.com
>>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:12 AM
>>> To: announce at usml.net
>>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>>
>>> Andy,
>>>
>>> I suppose you're right at this point that we'll have to set this for a
>>> vote.
>>> Mark does not have internet access and I do think this needs to get
>>> resolved
>>> asap. As I see it there are numerous choices, but in the absence of
>>> anyone
>>> in the leag ue suggesting otherwise, there appear to be two choices most
>>> worthy of our consideration:
>>>
>>> 1. Allocate the players as if we had provided them manually to Mark
>>> Blocker
>>> an d asked him to process them in accordance with the Constitution.
>>>
>>> 2. Accept the results of the system as they were announced and leave Bay
>>> and Griffey for bidding next week.
>>>
>>> As I said, there are other possible alternatives, like re-bidding
>>> entirely,
>>>  or disallowing Jim and my contingent bids in their entirety, but I am
>>> *gues sing that no one feels strongly about either of those two choices
>>> to
>>> insist that they be included in the vote.=2 0If no one indicates
>>> otherwise
>>> prior to noon today, I would propose that people vote for either 1 or 2.
>>>
>>> If #1 is the winner, we'll also have to decide how to decide salaries. I
>>> believe this is only relevant for the determination of Nady's salary. I
>>> bid
>>> $56 on Bay, then Nady, then Griffey. Does the $56 define only Bay's
>>> salary
>>> or because it was beaten and then the system would have evaluated my bid
>>> in
>>> a non-contingent fashion against Andy's, is it also used to determine
>>> Nady's
>>> 0Asalary? Please vote on this proposition, regardless of your vote on
>>> the
>>> first issue:
>>>
>>> 1. Nady's salary is established based upon applying the constitution
>>> (i.e.
>>> only non-contingent bids are considered).
>>>
>>> 2. Nady's salary is established based upon the algorithm ap parent ly
>>> used by
>>>
>>> the system to determine the winning bidder and his salary is measured
>>> against the team that20would have finished second in the bidding as
>>> determined by CBSSportsline (i.e. my bid of $56).
>>>
>>> Also, I think we ought to consider disallowing contingent bids on the
>>> system
>>>  for the balance of the season unti l we can figure out how to unwind
>>> them if
>>> this were to happen again. That's just a suggestion,or discussion point
>>> and
>>> not something we need to vote on. < br>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andy Klein <anrklein at gmail.com>
>>> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
>>> Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 9:51 am
>>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>>
>>>  My view is that if Bay and Griffey were actually in the system and
>>> listed as&nbsp ;
>>> a vailable for bidding, we should count those bids. Jeff ... I
>>> understand
>>> that you are trying to remain very neutral since you were the only bidder
>>> on
>>> Griffey. But you shouldn't have to forfeit a deser ved boon -- you get
>>> Griffey at $5, and he might well be a keeper next year. So ... in my
>>> opinion, the players should be awarded as I suggested in my previous
>>> note:
>>> Bay to Jim, Tex to Rich, Nady to me, and Griffey to Jeff . As I said
>>> before, we do need to sort out salary issue s, with the basic issue
>>> being
>>> whether an unsuccessful contingent bid increases the salary of a
>>> successful
>>> prima ry bid.
>>>
>>> All that said, I am just trying to help sort things out and will abide
>>> by
>>> any group decision. But we should have *everyone* weigh in quickly,
>>> because
>>> the decisions could have a big impact on the title race. Can we vote on
>>> whether to allocate the players as I suggest and also v ote on the
>>> salary&nb sp;
>>> issue?
>>>
>>> -Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Jeff Winick <jhwinick at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Andy,
>>>
>>> Griffey was my 3rd bid, so if we try to guess as to what the system
>>> would
>>> have done we're still left with the issue of how to set salaries, like,
>>> for
>>> example, Nady If we let the system work, as is, then we would ignore my
>>> bids for Bay and Griffey and Jim's bid for Bay and voil? you have an
>>> easy
>>> and obvious answer and no question about the interjection of
>>> subjectivity
>>> into the process.
>>> Jeff
>>> Sent=2 0from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 4, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Andrew Klein <anrklein at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff-
>>>
>>> If you are the only player who bid on Griffey, you get him at $5. That's
>>> how are r ules work. I also think that Jim B. should get Bay. He clearly
>>>
>>> made the highest bid. The question (as with Nady) is salary. The only i
>>> nfo
>>> I don't see from earlier correspondence is detail about your bids. Were
>>> they contingent after Griffey? If so, the problem is easily solved
>>> because
>>>  your subsequent bids don't matter. If they were non-continge nt, then
>>> we
>>> need to know20the amounts and decide how they impact the salary
>>> consequences
>>> of my Nady bid and Jim's Bay bid.
>>> Again, just my two cents.
>>>
>>> One other thing. I suggest that in September, a few of us make "bids" on
>>> the system to test how it handles certain scenarios. We can undo the
>>> transactions after the experiments.
>>>
>>> -Andy
>>>
>>> Jeff Winick wrote:
>>>
>>> I, too, agree with Andy, but would focus on his point about the system
>>> having perhaps worked properly.
>>>
>>>  Despit e the fact that it costs me Griffey, I think we ought to
>>> consider
>>>
>>> leaving well enough alone and default to the website's results, I.e.
>>> Leave
>>> Bay and Griffey bidding to next week and leave the rest of the r esults
>>> alone. To do otherwise requires us to make assumptions about what the
>>> system
>>> would have or should have done and that makes me uncomfortable.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 4, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Andrew Klein <anrklein at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, Brad. No luck. I'm back.
>>> =0 A
>>> I think that FAAB bids s hould be processed as if the system had worked
>>> as we
>>> anticipated. This means that we follow our constitution, except where it
>>> would requir e the commissioner to unwind the system's allocation of
>>> players.
>>> During the year, we recognized that this would mean that a higher contin
>>> gent&n bsp;
>>> bid trumps a lower primary bid. If I have sorted out the emails
>>> correctly, this would result in the following: Jim gets Bay. Rich gets
>>> Tex. I get Nady. Jeff gets Griffey. (Jeff's message read: "I had bid on
>>> Griffey, Nady and Bay, not Tex. But my bids for Griffey or Bay weren't
>>> processed.")
>>>
>>> We never reached an agreement on how salary would work in this
>>> situation.
>>> Jeff's position is that salary should be impacted when a primary bid
>>> competes against contingent bid. My opposite view is that we should
>>> follow
>>> our constitutional rule and not have contingent bids inflate salaries of
>>> successful primary bids. My reasoning is that the commissioner needs to
>>> alter salaries anyway -- so this is not something where we allow the
>>> automated system to save work for Mark B. These are both reasonable
>>> positions. We should vote on this and then have precedent on the point.&n
>>> bsp;
>>>
>>> Like Jim, I continue to oppose a complete do-over, which would hurt those
>>> of
>>> us who made good (OK, lucky) bidding decisions.
>>>
>>> All that said, I'll go along with the league c onsensus however that
>>> turns
>>> out.
>>>
>>> -Andy
>>>
>>> PS: On the=2 0snafu ... is it possible that the system did not process
>>> Bay and
>>>  Griffey be cause they had not appeared in games by Friday midnight?
>>> That
>>> would make sense. Tex and Nady both appeared earlier in the week. Bay
>>> and
>>> Griffey did not play for their teams -- I think -- until Saturday.
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Jansen wrote:
>>>
>>> Let me identify something you guys can do: coin toss or cage match. End
>>> this quickly. And Klein, go back out of town. Now.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Richard E. Robbins <
>>> RERobbins at itinker.net
>>> <mailto:RERobbins at itinker.net <RERobbins%0A+ at itink%0Aer.net?>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If the system just runs from top to bottom until you run out of
>>> money then
>>> we should be able to simulate what happened given a complete set
>>> of bids and
>>> a pr operly functioning CBS site.
>>>
>>> I'm not saying that is what we should do -- that's for the rest of
>>> you to
>>> decide.
>>>
>>> I clearly have a conflict because if I understand what Andy is
>>> saying I
>>> think I end up with Tex.
>>>
>>> Please understand that I'm not advocating that we do one thing or
>>> another --
>>> merely trying to identify things we could do.
>>>
>>> -- Rich
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: announce-bounces at usml.net <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net<announce-bounces at usml.net?>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <an%0A+nounce%0A-bounces at usml.net?>
>>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Andrew Klein
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:50 PM
>>> To: USML Announcements
>>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>>
>>> Just back from out of town. Here's my two cents.
>>>
>>> I have been doing contingent bidding all year, and the system is
>>> not that
>>> complicated. It processes bids in the order you enter them, and
>>> then stops
>>> when it cannot do so any longer. This occurs when the player
>>> chosen for
>>> waiver is gone (because he was waived through a prior bid -- the
>>> later bids
>>> are essentially contingent). Or it would happen if someone ran
>>> out of FAAB
>>> money. Salary cap is not part of the system.
>>> It is up to the player who wins the bids to adjust rosters accordingly
>>>  before Sunday noon. Also, as everyone knows, due to our "eBay"
>>> system, Mark
>>> B. manually adjusts salaries of players purchased through FAAB.
>>>
>>> I don't know what happened with the Bay bidding. But it sounds
>>> like Jim B.
>>> should have won hi m, but then ran out of money for his other bids.
>>>  I think
>>> that I am due Nady. The only question to me is his salary -- i.e.
>>>  is it $30 or $50-something based on Jeff's contingent bid.20Jeff
>>> accurately
>>> described our disagreement on that point, and I am happy to
>>> elaborate on my
>>> opinion if that becomes relevant.
>>>
>>> In any case, I strongly object to tossing out all bids and
>>> starting over
>>> next week.
>>>
>>> -Andy
>>>
>>> jhwinick at aol.com <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com?>> wrote:
>>>  > Guy s,&nbs p;
>>> >
>>> > Just when it looked like it would be easy....
>>> >
>>> > Here's the problem with Jim's bids. It is impossible to discern how
>>> > the system would treat them. It is clear that you can bid
>>> > contingently on the same player since the system will disregard all
>>> > other bids for the same waived player onc e he has been replaced, but
>>> > it is not at all clear how the system would handle bids that could
>>> > theoretically take you well over the salary cap. I've read the
>>> syst em
>>> > rules again this morning and the real challenge is determining where
>>> > the system starts its evaluation of bids. In Jim's case that would
>>> > have implications for who gets whom, what their resulting salaries
>>> > w ill be and what player Jim will waive depending on what player he
>>> > gets. Jim had the theoretical high bid on two different players. <
>>> BR>0A& gt; Because the system didn't process the B ay bids, there's no way
>>> to know
>>> > whether (or IF) it would have awarded Jim either Bay or Nady. I'm
>>> > afraid that Jim's bids appear to be exactly the kind of complication
>>> > th at Mark B was talking about.
>>> >
>>> > I obviously have a vested interest, so I'm going to pass the
>>> torch to
>>> > someone else. I don't think there's going to be a "good" answer for
>>> > how to handle this one.
>>> >
>>> > I do, however, have one request, that I suppose is largely moot at
>>> > this point. PLEASE send out your FAAB bids no later than Saturday
>>> > morning. Although FAAB is almost over and hopefully the system will
>>> > work going forward, it would really help to have all of this
>>> > information as soon20as possible. Thanks.
>>> >
>>> > Jeff
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Ori ginal Message-----
>>> > From: Richard E. Robbins <RERobbins at iTinker.net>
>>> > To: 'USML Announcements' <announce at usml.net
>>> <mailto:announce at usml .net <announce at usml.net?>>>
>>> > Sent: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 7:14 am
>>> > Subject: RE: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>> >
>>> > Since roster moves haven't become effective, is there a problem with
>>> > Jeff just emulating what the system should have done with these
>>> bids?& nbsp;
>>> >
>>> > I don't think you should be penalized for not having access to email
>>> > yesterday just because the web site didn't process things properly.
>>> >
>>> > Just my two cents.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > --
>>> > *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net<http://mailto%0A+%3Aannou%0Ance-bounces@usml.net/>
>>>
>>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>
>>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?> <
>>> mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>>
>>> > [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>
>>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>
>>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net%20%20?>
>>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>?>]
>>> > *On Behalf Of *Jim Barrett
>>> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:54 AM
>>> > *To:* USML Announcements
>>> > *Subjec t:* Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>> >
>>> > Sorry guys for the delay but I was tr avellin g yest erday and didn't
>>>
>>> > have access to e-mail. I don't wan t to mess things up further so am
>>> > willing to accept Jeff's allocations but this is how I bid:
>>> >
>>> > $74 on Bay
>>> > $69 on Teixiera
>>>  > $50 on Nady < br> >
>>> > My FAAB remaining was $74 ( full amt of bid on Bay). I didn't know
>>> > how/if contingent bidding worked and figured if the system
>>> didn't want
>>> > me bidding this way it would stop me. Otherwise it would treat the
>>> > other two as contingents. I picked different players to drop
>>> for each
>>> > (didn't think of using the same). For Bay, I had dropped my
>>> open slot
>>> > (for waiving Tabata earlier). For the other two it was Albers and
>>> > Gabbard. Obviously, I'd prefer that the open spot be used
>>> rather than
>>> > eliminating a player from my reserve roster.
>>> >
>>>  > With a ll tha t said, I think technically I should have won Bay but
>>> am
>>> > willing to accept Teixiera if that causes the l east amount of
>>> > angst/trouble.
>>> >
>>> > Jim
>>> >
>>> > */Jeff Winick <jhwinick at aol.com <mailto:jhwinick @aol.com<jhwinick at aol.com?>
>>> >
>>> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com?> <mailt o:jhwinick at aol.com>>>/*
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Let's try this again. Bay is a Berliner at $52, otherwise the
>>> > message of20this afternon was an accurate statement of the
>>> bidding
>>> > outcome.
>>> >
>>> > Jeff
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >
>>> > On Aug 2, 2008, at 8:33 PM, Bbuddhas at aol.com
>>> <
>>> mailto:Bbuddhas at ao l.com< /A>>  <Bbuddhas at aol.com?>
>>> > < <Bbuddhas at aol.com?>mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com <Bbuddhas at aol.com?> <
>>> mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com <Bbuddhas at aol.com?>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> correction i checked my bid it was and still is $51
>>> >>
>>> >> In a message dated 8/2/2008 8:09:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>> >> jhwinick at aol.com <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com?>>
>>> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com?> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com<jhwinick at aol.com?>>>
>>> writes:
>>> >>
>>> >> If that isnt Buddha yanking my chain after I spent the time
>>> >> to sort this out, it will unfortunately=2 0mean we have to
>>> sort
>>> >> out the whole contingency issue. I'll20post something
>>> further
>>> >> tonight about our o ptions.
>>> >& gt;&nb sp;
>>>
>>> >> Jeff
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >> On Aug 2, 2008, at 7:50 PM, Bbuddhas at aol.com
>>> <mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com <Bbuddhas at aol.com?>>
>>> >> & lt;mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com <Bbuddhas at aol.com?> <
>>> mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com <Bbuddhas at aol.com?>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> put a $56 bid on Bay
>>>  >>>& nbsp;
>>> >>> In a message dated 8/2/2008 6:15:19 P.M. Central Daylight
>>> >>> Time, jhwinick at aol.com< /A> < <jhwinick at aol.com>
>>> mailto:jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com?>>
>>> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com?> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com<jhwinick at aol.com?>>>
>>> writes:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Here's what I know s o far:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Andy bid his entire budget on Nady. I spoke with him
>>> >>> this morning and he had no contingent bids. I
>>> spoke to
>>> >>> Brad and he didn't bid. So, pending presently unknown
>>> >>> bids from either John or Buddha here are where
>>> things stand:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I had the high bid on Bay at $56. H e was my first
>>> >>> choice, so we can end all o f the discussion about
>>> >>> contingent bids and can treat this bid as
>>> non-contingent
>>> >>> and disregard the other two bids that I made to
>>> replace
>>> >>> Shelley Duncan. The next highest bid was $47 from
>>> Rich,
>>> >>> so he will be awarded to me at $48.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> $56 - JHW
>>> >>> $4720- Rich
>>> >>> $40 - Doug
>>> >>> $35 - MBB& nbsp;< BR>>>>
>>> >>> The highest bid on Teixeira was by the Calamari
>>> wh o bid
>>> >>> $69. The next highest bidder was Rich at $48, so he
>>> >>> &nb sp; will be awarded to the Calamari (in fact, he
>>> already has
>>> >>> been) for $49.
>>> & gt;>>
>>> >>> $69 - Jim
>>> >>> $48 - Rich
>>> >>> $17 - MBB
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The highest bid on Nady was Andy's at $64. That was
>>> >>> Andy's entire budget. The next highest bidders were
>>> >>> Rick and Doug at $29, so Nady will be awarded to the
>>> >>> Klein Nine (in fact, he already has been) for $30.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> $64 - Andy
>>> >>> $29 - Doug
>>> >>> $29 - Rick
>>> >>> $20 - MBB
>>> >>>
>>>  >>> There don't appear to have been any b i ds on
>>> Griffey, so
>>> >>> he will be available next week.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Please let me know if you see a mistake. And John and
>>> >>> Buddha, please let me know asap if you placed bids
>>> this
>>> >>> week.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Jeff
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -----Ori ginal Message-----
>>> >>> From: Doug Shabelman <doug at burnsent.com
>>> <mailto:doug at burnsent.com <doug at burnsent.com?>>
>>> >>> <mailto:doug at burnsent.com <doug at burnsent.com?> <
>>> mailto:doug at burnsent.com <doug at burnsent.com?>>>>
>>>  >>> To: announce at usml.net <mail to:ann ounce at usml.net<announce at usml.net?>
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:announce at usml.net <announce at usml.net?> <
>>> mailto:announce at usml.net <announce at usml.net?>>>
>>>
>>> >>> Sent: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 5:46 pm
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Andy's in a car and not by a computer. I am out in
>>> >>> &n bsp; beautiful Grant Park at Lollapolooza where the next
>>> >>> President is rumored to be introducing Wilco this
>>> evening.
>>> >> >
>>> >>> I believe I bid 40 on Bay, 29 on Nady but cannot
>>> confirm
>>> >>> 100%. Someone can call Andy at 3174426981 but
>>> let's not
>>> >>> make it Rich- I'd like to have a fighting chance....
>>> >>>
>>> >>> DS
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> From: announce-bounces at usml.net
>>> <mailto:announce-bounce s at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>
>>> >>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>
>>>  <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>> < br>
>>> >>> <announce-bounces at usml.net
>>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>
>>> >>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>
>>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>>>
>>> > >> To: 'USML Announcements' <announce at usml.net
>>> <mailto:announce at usml.net <announce at usml.net?>>
>>> >>> <mailto:announce at usml.net <announce at usml.net?> <
>>> mailto:announce at usml.net <announce at usml.net?>>>>
>>> >>> Sent: Sat Aug 02 17:42:54 2008
>>> >>> Subj ect: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Let's try and get this FAAB stuff wrapped up.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In order for Jeff=2 0to handle processing we need to know
>>> >>> what everyone bid.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> So far, Jeff has information from me, Mark B and
>>> his own
>>> >>> bids.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It appears that Andy and Jim placed bids, but we
>>> need to
>>> >>> know the specifics.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Please guys -- chime in with your bids or confirm that
>>> =0 A >>> you didn't bid.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We need to get this wrapped up prompt ly.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>>
>>>  >>> --20Rich
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>>> From:  <bbuddhas at aol.com>bbuddhas at aol.com
>>> To:  <announce at usml.net>announce at usml.net
>>> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 03:37:51 +0000
>>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
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