[USML Announce] USML - FAAB bidding

Jeff Winick jhwinick at aol.com
Sun Mar 30 09:56:12 EDT 2008


Unfortunately I can't access that either. Please forward faab and  
transactions to Usmltransaction at aol.com

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2008, at 9:14 AM, springkerb at aol.com wrote:

> I just sent my act/res transactions to the usmltrans mailbox.   
> Copies of the FAAB bids were sent there yesterday.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: springkerb at aol.com
> To: announce at usml.net
> Sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 7:56 am
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] USML - FAAB bidding
>
> I don't see anything that tells me if my FAAB bids were successful.   
> How do I handle act/res if I don't know who I have?
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhwinick at aol.com
> To: announce at usml.net
> Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 4:52 pm
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] USML - FAAB bidding
>
> Guys,
>
> Here's the deal.  We're going to work with the website as much as  
> possible in order to reduce the workload imposed on the  
> commissioner.  Despite all the difficulties with All Star Stats, it  
> was the most accomodating of the websites, at least as it related to  
> our rules.  It appears that CBS is a bit less so.  I believe that  
> Andy is right that you will be able to put in multiple bids for  
> players all premised on waiving the same player.  But just as with  
> All Star Stats, the onus is on you to figure out how to make it  
> work.  It simply isn't practical to require Mark B. to sort through  
> bids every week to deal with multiple contingencies.
>
> As for the ebay bidding, Mark and I have already agreed that we will  
> continue to use that system.  If you read my last email on this  
> matter, you'll see the details.
>
> As for the priority for breaking ties, we are going to use the  
> default system at CBS - namely reverse order of standings subject to  
> modification once the lower team has won a player.
>
> As for the constitutional amendment - I'd like to think it isn't  
> necessary, but would support it if the sense of the league is  
> otherwise.
>
> The King
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew R. Klein <anrklein at yahoo.com>
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 4:04 pm
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] USML - FAAB bidding
>
> I agree with Mark on all of the points.  Regarding the third point,  
> the system might be able to handle it the correct way.  I haven't  
> tried it, but with All-Star, you would just input bids sequentially,  
> changing who you would drop.  For example.  Bid A, Drop X; Bid B,  
> Drop X, Bid B, Drop Y; etc.  It took a little fiddling, but  
> eventually worked.  The Sportsline system might be able to do the  
> same thing assuming it doesn't remove a player from your roster  
> after the first drop order.
>
> -Andy
>
> springkerb at aol.com wrote:
>> I have a couple of questions.  First, are we going to adopt a  
>> constitutional amendment or some kind of temporary rule to  
>> accommodate the differences between this process and our  
>> constitution?  I think we should, if only to clarify how we're  
>> proceeding.  Here's my proposal for an appropriate proviso:   
>> Notwithstanding the foregoing, the Commissioners shall be  
>> authorized to adopt a FAAB bidding process consistent with the  
>> system constraints of any statistical service used by the League,  
>> upon reasonable notice to the League.
>>
>> Second, it appears this has a FAAB priority for breaking ties  
>> different from what's in or rules--based on prior purchases rather  
>> than standings.  Is that what we're following?  I think I got that  
>> impression from some earlier e-mails that are no longer in my box.   
>> I'd say that's no big deal since FAAB ties are relatively rare and  
>> not likely to be "outcome determinative" as Jeffrey would say.
>>
>> Third, this seems to imply that a specific "drop" must be  
>> associated with any FAAB, rather than being able to drop a series  
>> of players in priority order.  Seems like a dopey way to set up the  
>> system and one we should over-ride if we can do so without  
>> excessive pain to the commissioners, but if we're stuck with it,  
>> we're stuck with it.
>>
>> Fourth, I'm assuming we are still using the "one dollar above the  
>> next highest bid" system.  I didn't see any e-mails to the  
>> contrary, and that's a pretty major feature of our current system.   
>> It significantly affects bids.  So, that remains per the  
>> constitution, right?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blocker, Mark B. <mblocker at Sidley.com>
>> To: announce at usml.net
>> Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 9:35 am
>> Subject: [USML Announce] USML - FAAB bidding
>>
>> This is straight from the website, which no one bothers to read:
>> What is FAAB (Free Agent Acquisition Budget)?
>> Answer
>> FAAB stands for Free Agent Acquisition Budget. Every add/drop is  
>> granted via a blind, bidding system that is processed  
>> automatically. Each time an owner has an add/drop processed, they  
>> will be placed at the bottom of the FAAB order. If there is a tie  
>> for a player, the FAAB order is used; the owner that is higher in  
>> the list will receive the player and be moved to the bottom.
>>
>> You can also select the Commissioner FAAB approval process. Free  
>> agents are still picked up via a blind, bidding system, but it is  
>> processed by the commissioner and not automatically. The  
>> Commissioner will go to the Transactions Request page to process  
>> the winning bids.
>>
>> If you select to use either of the two available FAAB options, each  
>> owner will go to the My Team/Add-drop page and select the players  
>> to be added and dropped then a bid is entered. The team with the  
>> highest bid for that player will be awarded the player and the bid  
>> value subtracted from their budget.
>> Example #1
>> Team #1 as listed in the FAAB order inputs a request for three  
>> players:
>> Player "a" bid of $15
>> Player "c" bid of $10
>> Player "b" bid of $1
>> Team # 8 as listed in the FAAB order inputs a request for three  
>> players:
>> Player "a" bid of $25
>> Player "c" bid of $10
>> Player "b" bid of $1
>> The system looks for the player that has the highest overall bid  
>> placed on him. In this case, player A would be the first player  
>> auctioned. The system would then search through every bid submitted  
>> for Player A. The team with the highest bid for Player A would win  
>> that player. In this example, team 8 would be awarded Player A.
>>
>> The FAAB process will continue in this manner. The system will seek  
>> out the player that has the highest overall bid for him. Player C  
>> will be the next player auctioned. If there are 2 equal bids for  
>> the same player (c), the system will award the player to the team  
>> that is highest on the FAAB order. For Example, player C will be  
>> auctioned second and awarded to Team #1 because they were ahead of  
>> Team #8 in the FAAB order (remember Team #8 would be at the bottom  
>> of the FAAB order because the won the previous auction.)
>> Finally, player (b) will be auctioned last and awarded to Team #8  
>> because they are higher on the FAAB order (Team #1 was dropped to  
>> the bottom of the FAAB order because the won the previous auction).
>> Please note: If a team is dropping the same player for multiple  
>> bids and that team wins a bid all subsequent bids involving "same"  
>> dropped player become invalid.
>> Example #2
>> FAAB Budget is $100
>> The remaining budgets for the bidding teams are as follows:
>> John's Team $55
>> Sam's Team $80
>> Joe's Team $40
>> Larry's Team $65
>> John is listed #1 in the FAAB order and his FAAB bids are:
>> Player A bid of $30 dropping Player X
>> Player F bid of $30 dropping Player Y
>> Sam is listed #3 in the FAAB order and his FAAB bids are:
>> Player B bid of $20 dropping Player M
>> Player C bid of $15 dropping Player M
>> Player D bid of $5 dropping Player O
>>
>> Joe is listed #4 in the FAAB order and his FAAB bids are:
>> Player C bid of $10 dropping Player R
>> Player E bid of $10 dropping Player R
>> Larry is listed #7 in the FAAB order and his FAAB bids are:
>> Player F bid of $5 dropping Player T
>> Player D bid of $5 dropping Player V
>> The first player to be auctioned is Player A for $30. Player A is  
>> auctioned first because $30 is the highest overall bid. John has  
>> Player A prioritized as his first bid. John wins the bid for Player  
>> A for $30. John drops to the bottom of the FAAB order and $30 is  
>> subtracted from his FAAB budget.
>> Player F would not be auctioned at this time because John's $30 bid  
>> would exceed his FAAB budget.
>> The second player to be auctioned is Player B. Sam wins the bid for  
>> Player B with a bid of $20. Sam drops to the bottom of the FAAB  
>> order and $20 is subtracted from his FAAB budget.
>> The third player to be auctioned is Player C for $10 (Sam's bid of  
>> $15 became invalid when Sam dropped Player M to claim Player B).  
>> Joe wins the bid for Player C with a bid of $10. Joe drops to the  
>> bottom of the FAAB order and $10 is subtracted from his FAAB budget.
>> The Fourth player to be auctioned is Player F for $5. Player F is  
>> auctioned next for 2 reasons:
>> 1)Larry is higher in the FAAB order because Sam dropped below Larry  
>> with a successful bid earlier in the bidding process. Since Larry  
>> is higher in the FAAB order, his bid (Player F for $5) will be  
>> auctioned before Sam's bid (Player D for $5).
>> 2)Larry has prioritized his bid of Player F over Player D.
>> Larry wins the bid for Player F for $5. As stated previously,  
>> John's $30 bid for Player F was invalid because his bid would have  
>> exceeded his FAAB budget.
>> The last player to be auctioned is Player D. Both Larry and Sam  
>> have equal bids of $5 for Player D. Sam wins the bid for Player D  
>> because he is higher in the FAAB order. John had dropped to the  
>> bottom of the FAAB order by winning his previous bid. Sam drops to  
>> the bottom of the FAAB order and $5 is subtracted from his FAAB  
>> budget.
>> Player E is not auctioned because Joe no longer has Player R to  
>> drop and there aren't any other bids for Player E. If Joe had a  
>> different player to drop Player E would have been auctioned.
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