<div dir="ltr">I tend to agree with Mark that, if the constitution intended to prohibit under-representation it should say so. Especially since Section 4 explicitly indicates over-representation as well as a number of other scenarios that require remedying; yet no mention of under-representation is ever discussed. Therefore, reading 3(1) together with 3(4), I think "SHALL consist of the following players.." should be construed as setting forth the maximums for each roster spot. I'm also not terribly concerned about demoting players to the reserve roster to circumvent salary rules because the reserve roster has a maximum number of spots available.<div>
<br></div><div style>But then again, I'm still just a law student (whose weakest subject admittedly is constitutional law) and not yet admitted to practice.... so I could be entirely wrong. Just my 2 pennies worth of input....</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Jeffrey Winick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jhwinick@aol.com" target="_blank">jhwinick@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I looked at the constitution, and I think it's 100% clear. Over-representation is not allowed, but under-representation is. Article III, Section 4. It's absolutely 100% clear. If the answer were otherwise, III(4) would also contain the words "or under-represented" (which it does not). BA, ERA and WHIP are addressed by the AB and IP minimums. One can argue about whether it should work that way, but it does unless and until we amend the constituation.</font></div>
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<div>Easy answer, clear as a bell, nothing left to talk about. The commissioners are empowered to interpret the constitution, but not to change it on the fly, so the whole discussion is pointless.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span>I agree that it is an interpretation issue.</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span>And I agree that FA’s can be used to fill slots, but NL players can only be used in slots if they first occupied that slot while they were something other than an NL player. I think we cleared that up earlier.</span></div>
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(By the way, as discussed previously, it's also permissible to fill slots with FAs or NL players that were properly acquired--e.g., Valverde. That's sufficiently clear in the rules that I don't think there's anything to discuss.)</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span>This came up a long time ago, and at the time I think we decided empty slots were allowed. However, I also thought there were later amendments that changed that--but I may be wrong.<br>
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