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<div>Doug--if you're such an expert, how about if you name two or three deadline trades in the past few years where the selling team got a comparably graded set of prospects, based on what was known about them at the time of the trade? (No fair cherry-picking a couple that happened to turn out well in hindsight.) It shouldn't be hard for you to do that--unless you're just blowing smoke.</div>
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<div dir=ltr>OK - I'm in on returning to Packer-bashing. But I'm frustrated with the Theo Era, which is destined to end like the post-Jordan Jerry Krause Era for the Bulls when we were told to be patient and wait for the the high school twin towers of Chandler Tyson and Eddy Curry to lead the team to back to glory.
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<div>On the Packer front, has Rodgers issued his Braun defense yet? I recall him being incredibly vociferous on this point last year ...</div>
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To: USML Announcements <<A href="mailto:announce@usml.net">announce@usml.net</A>> <br>
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