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<P class=c93005c4-8edb-4010-a1ae-2a09db62d651><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark K: While I generally agree with the second paragraph of what you wrote, it seems like hitters got a bigger advantage, based on HR inflation. Also, it seems like most of the players who have been caught were hitters, not pitchers (Roger Clemens and Andy Pettite being two of the exceptions). However, I don’t think any of this really matters, because PEDs were banned, so taking them meant you were cheating, end of story. To use a simple analogy, if a politician stuffs the ballot box but doesn’t win, she still broke the law, and the fact she did not get the full benefit of her crime is immaterial.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=MsoNormal style=margin-left:.5in><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> announce-bounces@usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces@usml.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>springkerb@aol.com<br /><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 15, 2013 1:58 PM<br /><b>To:</b> announce@usml.net<br /><b>Subject:</b> Re: [USML Announce] ESPN.com:Did A-Rod really gain an edge fromPEDs?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style=margin-left:.5in><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style=margin-left:.5in><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Fascinating and complex. On the other hand, one could have asked whether a bunch of skinny guys guys with limited power started launching bombs after they started juicing and bulked up. Was Raffie Palmiero the same guy in Texas that he was in Chicago? I don't think so.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style=margin-left:.5in><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style=margin-left:.5in><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Or, if you want to go with the complex approach, you'd have to start by recognizing that both hitters and pitchers were juicing. If the pitchers were throwing harder and recovering faster between starts (which they almost certainly were), then you could get zero change in net statistics, or even a net reduction in hitting, even though steroids were producing big jumps in individual performance. (This is where I come down, by the way.)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style=margin-left:.5in><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style=margin-left:.5in><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>It's like debating the merits of economic stimulus on the recession. Democrats say it worked and perhaps was actually too small because the world didn't end, but we still had a major recession. Republicans say it didn't work because we still had a major recession. Unless you have some way to run a controlled experiment, you can't sort it out.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style=margin-left:.5in><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style=mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Mark<br /><br /><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style=mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br />From: bljansen <<a href="mailto:bljansen@gmail.com">bljansen@gmail.com</a>><br />To: announce <<a href="mailto:announce@usml.net">announce@usml.net</a>><br />Sent: Thu, Aug 15, 2013 1:37 pm<br />Subject: [USML Announce] ESPN.com:Did A-Rod really gain an edge from PEDs?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_0_4aecff46-ee00-432c-9b8a-78d95c16282c"><pre style=margin-left:.5in;background:white><tt><span style=color:black>Hi <a href="mailto:announce@usml.net">announce@usml.net</a>,<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style=margin-left:.5in;background:white><tt><span style=color:black><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style=margin-left:.5in;background:white><tt><span style=color:black><a href="mailto:bljansen@gmail.com">bljansen@gmail.com</a> has sent you this page from ESPN.com:<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style=margin-left:.5in;background:white><tt><span style=color:black><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style=margin-left:.5in;background:white><tt><span style=color:black>"Did A-Rod really gain an edge from PEDs?" is located at <a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/39131/does-a-rod-really-gain-an-edge-from-peds" target="_blank">http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/39131/does-a-rod-really-gain-an-edge-from-peds</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style=margin-left:.5in;background:white><tt><span style=color:black><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style=margin-left:.5in;background:white><tt><span style=color:black>Enjoy!<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style=margin-left:.5in;background:white><tt><span style=color:black>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style=margin-left:.5in;background:white><tt><span style=color:black>announce mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style=margin-left:.5in;background:white><tt><span style=color:black><a href="mailto:announce@usml.net">announce@usml.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style=margin-left:.5in;background:white><tt><span style=color:black><a href="http://lists.usml.net/mailman/listinfo/announce" target="_blank">http://lists.usml.net/mailman/listinfo/announce</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre></div></div></div></P>
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