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by my count, it is 4-4 A votes; Brats, K-9, Buddha, Lubeasts</div>
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<div class="PlainText">By my count, the vote is 5-3 with B leading which means we either will have a tie or B will prevail. Need votes from Bombers and AYM.
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> Content preview: I also still prefer option A, however, to remind everybody, <br>
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> I also still prefer option A, however, to remind everybody, and at the risk=<br>
> of stating the obvious, the difference in using 2xSaves + H is a not so su=<br>
> btle difference than using S + H/2, as Frank attempted to point out in his =<br>
> analysis. Basically, using the latter eliiminates the effect of actually e=<br>
> mphasizing the saves category even more, which was the concern of some of u=<br>
> s in wishing to introuduce the use of 'holds' as a category. The choice bet=<br>
> ween S+H and S+H/2 is now a more clear cut choice on how much to value hold=<br>
> s....anyway, consider this a Public Service Announcement, that is all.<br>
> <br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: Announce <announce-bounces@usml.net> on behalf of Andy Klein <anrklei=<br>
> n@gmail.com><br>
> Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 5:27 PM<br>
> To: USML Announcements<br>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> <br>
> Not a B fan, for reasons previously given. Let's see where the votes end up=<br>
> ... & then count hanging chads, etc. :)<br>
> <br>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 6:10 PM Jim Barrett <chicagojab@gmail.com<mailto:chi=<br>
> cagojab@gmail.com>> wrote:<br>
> Looks like B has the momentum. Maybe some A voters (esp the Prof who has be=<br>
> en really pushing the issue) should consider switching to the B side to pus=<br>
> h it over the goal line.<br>
> <br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
> <br>
> On Mar 3, 2019, at 5:02 PM, springkerb--- via Announce <announce@usml.net<m=<br>
> ailto:announce@usml.net>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Ditto. Put me down for the amended Option B. It gets to the same place (a=<br>
> nd implicitly demonstrates the obviously superior merits of a weighted appr=<br>
> oach).<br>
> <br>
> Mark K<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Jeffrey Winick <jwinick@hwhlegal.com<mailto:jwinick@hwhlegal.com>><br>
> To: USML Announcements <announce@usml.net<mailto:announce@usml.net>><br>
> Sent: Sun, Mar 3, 2019 3:08 pm<br>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> <br>
> I vote for amended option B.<br>
> <br>
> Jeffrey H. Winick<br>
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> From: Announce [<a href="mailto:announce-bounces@usml.net">mailto:announce-bounces@usml.net</a>] On Behalf Of Andy Klein<br>
> Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 2:53 PM<br>
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> OK - taken as a "friendly amendment" to Option B.<br>
> <br>
> Again, I vote for Option A.<br>
> <br>
> -Andy<br>
> <br>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 3:48 PM Jeffrey Winick <jwinick@hwhlegal.com<mailto:=<br>
> jwinick@hwhlegal.com>> wrote:<br>
> Andy,<br>
> <br>
> I think that a vote of this sort is a great idea. However, the website only=<br>
> supports Saves + Holds/2. So I=92d strongly recommend that we vote on that=<br>
> alternative.<br>
> Jeffrey H. Winick<br>
> Harris Winick Harris LLP<br>
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> On Mar 3, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Andy Klein <anrklein@gmail.com<mailto:anrklein@=<br>
> gmail.com>> wrote:<br>
> Starting again with the caveat that this is not an end-of-the world issue, =<br>
> I'm taking one more swing at this.<br>
> <br>
> It seems we have a clear majority in favor of including holds in some fashi=<br>
> on in our scoring system in 2020. I propose a vote on one of two alternati=<br>
> ves.<br>
> <br>
> A. Holds + Saves<br>
> B Holds + 2XSaves<br>
> <br>
> In the past, we haven't changed rules unless we have a strong majority in f=<br>
> avor. Commissioners ... can we vote and see where we stand? Knowing the o=<br>
> utcome could have an impact on bidding this year.<br>
> <br>
> -Andy<br>
> <br>
> PS: I vote for option A - Saves + Holds. :)<br>
> <br>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:33 PM Andy Klein <anrklein@gmail.com<mailto:anrk=<br>
> lein@gmail.com>> wrote:<br>
> In the end, this is not a huge issue to me, regardless of whether we stick =<br>
> with S, go to S+H or 2S+H. But it's kind of interesting, and I enjoy procr=<br>
> astinating during the lunch hour by looking at it!<br>
> <br>
> I suppose you could find odd comparisons either way, but I still like S+H b=<br>
> etter. Doubling the value of saves retains the huge value gap between 9th =<br>
> inning pitchers and others, and does much less to reduce the dynamic that e=<br>
> ncourages our artificial chasing of the "closer carousel." So, to me, it's=<br>
> not just the relative rankings in the spreadsheets that Frank created. It=<br>
> 's the gap. Here's one example. When you double the value of saves, Shane=<br>
> Greene collects twice as many counting points as stronger pitchers like Co=<br>
> lome, Robertson, and Betances. With S+H, Greene still ranks higher, gettin=<br>
> g the "bump" for being a 9th inning guy. But the gap is much narrower. Th=<br>
> at's a much better outcome in my view.<br>
> <br>
> As for some odd names showing up high in the S+H rankings (Alvarado, Roe, T=<br>
> rivino), that just reflects our longstanding bias. They are "no-names" to =<br>
> us because our scoring system doesn't place any value on what they do even =<br>
> though they are good pitchers.<br>
> <br>
> -Andy<br>
> <br>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 12:57 PM springkerb--- via Announce <announce@usml.=<br>
> net<<a href="mailto:announce@usml.net">mailto:announce@usml.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
> Not so slight. In the Luby comparison, Alvarado jumps from 10th to 3rd. R=<br>
> oe jumps from 14th to 6th. And a bunch of nobodies after about #20 go from=<br>
> the obscurity they deserve to real value.<br>
> <br>
> Mark K<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Blocker, Mark B. <mblocker@sidley.com<mailto:mblocker@sidley.com>><br>
> To: USML Announcements <announce@usml.net<mailto:announce@usml.net>><br>
> Cc: springkerb@aol.com<<a href="mailto:springkerb@aol.com">mailto:springkerb@aol.com</a>> <springkerb@aol.com<mailt=<br>
> o:springkerb@aol.com>><br>
> Sent: Tue, Feb 12, 2019 11:49 am<br>
> Subject: RE: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> Point taken. =93Substantial value=94? Seems the likely impact is slight d=<br>
> ecrease in value of closers and slight increase in value of some middle rel=<br>
> ievers.<br>
> <br>
> MARK B. BLOCKER<br>
> <br>
> <br>
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> From: Announce <announce-bounces@usml.net<mailto:announce-bounces@usml.net>=<br>
>> On Behalf Of springkerb--- via Announce<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 11:44 AM<br>
> To: announce@usml.net<<a href="mailto:announce@usml.net">mailto:announce@usml.net</a>><br>
> Cc: springkerb@aol.com<<a href="mailto:springkerb@aol.com">mailto:springkerb@aol.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> <br>
> To Jim's point re multiple holds being available per game, the main thing I=<br>
> was trying to do w/ my approach is to value both holds and saves equally, =<br>
> relative to the number of saves and holds available. The ratio was pretty =<br>
> close to 2:1 last year (actually about 2.1:1). So if we go to a 2:1 ratio,=<br>
> then we'd be valuing all available holds and all available saves approxima=<br>
> tely equally. I think if you look at Buddha's comparison, the most obvious=<br>
> and questionable shifts in value involve middle relievers that aren't part=<br>
> icularly good pitchers but get a lot of appearances in the sixth or seventh=<br>
> inning--e.g., Chaz Roe. To me, those guys are greatly overvalued by a 1:1=<br>
> ratio. Particularly when you get down to the guys below about the top 20,=<br>
> the 1:1 ratio gives substantial value to some guys who just aren't very go=<br>
> od pitchers.<br>
> <br>
> Mark<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Jim Barrett <chicagojab@gmail.com<mailto:chicagojab@gmail.com>><br>
> To: USML Announcements <announce@usml.net<mailto:announce@usml.net>><br>
> Sent: Tue, Feb 12, 2019 10:59 am<br>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> That=92s assuming that everyone=92s goal is to value saves and holds equall=<br>
> y important. From my perspective, I=92d like to recognize holds as having =<br>
> some value but I still view saves more important for several reasons. Like =<br>
> it or not but saves are an official statistic of MLB but I don=92t believe =<br>
> holds are. Only 1 save can be given out in a game whereas more than 1 hold =<br>
> can be given. Baseball is a tradition bound game more than most sports and=<br>
> the save and closer has the tradition behind it whereas holds do not. If w=<br>
> e all want to go total saber, we=92d get rid of Wins and BA too. So in sum =<br>
> if we make a change, I=92m in favor of weighting saves more heavily. And no=<br>
> on future requests to have a WAR or OPS+ category! :-)<br>
> <br>
> Jim<br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
> <br>
> On Feb 12, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Blocker, Mark B. via Announce <announce@usml.n=<br>
> et<<a href="mailto:announce@usml.net">mailto:announce@usml.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
> Want to give this more thought, but I think I agree with John=92s point tha=<br>
> t 2x saves puts too much emphasis on saves and defeats our goal of treating=<br>
> holds as equally important.<br>
> <br>
> Also, here are the options Onroto currently allows. I believe the math on =<br>
> option two works out the same as what some have proposed on a relative basi=<br>
> s:<br>
> <br>
> HOSV (Holds + Saves)<br>
> <br>
> SAVES2 (Saves + Holds / 2)<br>
> <br>
> MARK B. BLOCKER<br>
> <br>
> <br>
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> From: Announce <announce-bounces@usml.net<mailto:announce-bounces@usml.net>=<br>
>> On Behalf Of Bill Strotman via Announce<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 9:37 AM<br>
> To: USML Announcements <announce@usml.net<mailto:announce@usml.net>><br>
> Cc: Bill Strotman <bbuddhas@aol.com<mailto:bbuddhas@aol.com>><br>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> <br>
> Who cares what=92s most realistic. It=92s fantasy sports<br>
> <br>
> We give same weighting to SB as dingers. That=92s wrong.<br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
> <br>
> On Feb 12, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Frank Luby via Announce <announce@usml.net<mai=<br>
> lto:announce@usml.net>> wrote:<br>
> Good points, Mark.<br>
> <br>
> This version re-sorts the right-hand data to make Mark's points clear.<br>
> <br>
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 8:54:09 AM CST, springkerb <springkerb@aol.c=<br>
> om<<a href="mailto:springkerb@aol.com">mailto:springkerb@aol.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> To me, the 2x saves version does a better job of identifying pitchers who c=<br>
> an reliably hold a lead--which I think is what we're trying to measure here=<br>
> . For example, the version that values saves and holds equally says that J=<br>
> ose Alvarado is third in the league. He's a good reliever, but I don't thi=<br>
> nk he was more reliablelast year than Trienen or Chapman. Similarly, the e=<br>
> qually weighted version says the Chaz Roe (Chaz Roe?) was the sixth most re=<br>
> liable holder of leads in the AL. That's nuts.<br>
> <br>
> In general, major league managers use their best relievers later in the gam=<br>
> es, and that makes sense, since holding a lead gets more valuable later in =<br>
> the game. A clean ninth inning improves the team's likelihood of winning m=<br>
> ore when there are fewer innings left to play. So, at least to my eye, the=<br>
> 2x approach does a better job of rewarding better relievers.<br>
> <br>
> Mark<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S=AE6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone<br>
> <br>
> -------- Original message --------<br>
> From: JOHN FRUIT <jtfruit@msn.com<mailto:jtfruit@msn.com>><br>
> Date: 2/12/19 5:19 AM (GMT-06:00)<br>
> To: USML Announcements <announce@usml.net<mailto:announce@usml.net>>, Frank=<br>
> Luby <zachfehsvater@yahoo.com<mailto:zachfehsvater@yahoo.com>>, Andy Klein=<br>
> <anrklein@gmail.com<mailto:anrklein@gmail.com>><br>
> Cc: springkerb <springkerb@aol.com<mailto:springkerb@aol.com>><br>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> <br>
> What's apparent is that the 2x saves method seems to put even more statisti=<br>
> cal emphasis on the saves category, kinda defeating the purpose.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -------- Original message --------<br>
> From: springkerb via Announce <announce@usml.net<mailto:announce@usml.net>><br>
> Date: 2/11/19 10:15 PM (GMT-06:00)<br>
> To: Frank Luby <zachfehsvater@yahoo.com<mailto:zachfehsvater@yahoo.com>>, A=<br>
> ndy Klein <anrklein@gmail.com<mailto:anrklein@gmail.com>>, USML Announcemen=<br>
> ts <announce@usml.net<mailto:announce@usml.net>><br>
> Cc: springkerb <springkerb@aol.com<mailto:springkerb@aol.com>><br>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> <br>
> Cool. It's an interesting comparison.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S=AE6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone<br>
> <br>
> -------- Original message --------<br>
> From: Frank Luby <zachfehsvater@yahoo.com<mailto:zachfehsvater@yahoo.com>><br>
> Date: 2/11/19 10:02 PM (GMT-06:00)<br>
> To: Andy Klein <anrklein@gmail.com<mailto:anrklein@gmail.com>>, USML Announ=<br>
> cements <announce@usml.net<mailto:announce@usml.net>><br>
> Cc: springkerb <springkerb@aol.com<mailto:springkerb@aol.com>><br>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> <br>
> To throw some data into this discussion, here are the top 50 relievers in t=<br>
> he AL last season ranked by the SV+HLD method and the 2xSV+HLD, in a side b=<br>
> y side comparison ...<br>
> <br>
> On Monday, February 11, 2019, 9:44:36 PM CST, springkerb via Announce <anno=<br>
> unce@usml.net<<a href="mailto:announce@usml.net">mailto:announce@usml.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I'd like you to reconsider the ratio. There are about twice as many holds =<br>
> as saves. Weighting them equally would actually make the 7th and 8th inning=<br>
> guys more valuable than closers, which just doesn't seem right.<br>
> <br>
> Mark<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S=AE6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone<br>
> <br>
> -------- Original message --------<br>
> From: Andy Klein <anrklein@gmail.com<mailto:anrklein@gmail.com>><br>
> Date: 2/11/19 7:33 PM (GMT-06:00)<br>
> To: USML Announcements <announce@usml.net<mailto:announce@usml.net>><br>
> Cc: springkerb <springkerb@aol.com<mailto:springkerb@aol.com>><br>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> <br>
> Nope ... we talked about it, but never voted on it. I'm actually advocatin=<br>
> g Saves + Holds, not 2XSaves + Holds. I'm fine with 2020 implementation. =<br>
> I'll wait another day and then make a formal proposal.<br>
> <br>
> -Andy<br>
> <br>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 7:02 PM springkerb via Announce <announce@usml.net<=<br>
> <a href="mailto:announce@usml.net">mailto:announce@usml.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
> See my other email. Thought thiswas a done deal for this year.<br>
> <br>
> Mark<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S=AE6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone<br>
> <br>
> -------- Original message --------<br>
> From: Andy Klein <anrklein@gmail.com<mailto:anrklein@gmail.com>><br>
> Date: 2/11/19 4:16 PM (GMT-06:00)<br>
> To: USML Announcements <announce@usml.net<mailto:announce@usml.net>><br>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> <br>
> That's four quick positive responses. Eager to hear others ... and whether=<br>
> people would generally prefer to implement in 2020.<br>
> <br>
> -Andy<br>
> <br>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 5:01 PM JOHN FRUIT <jtfruit@msn.com<mailto:jtfruit@=<br>
> msn.com>> wrote:<br>
> Yeah, Josh Hader struck out like 50 Cubs in 10+ innings of work and had nar=<br>
> y a save.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -------- Original message --------<br>
> From: Frank Luby via Announce <announce@usml.net<mailto:announce@usml.net>><br>
> Date: 2/11/19 3:38 PM (GMT-06:00)<br>
> To: USML Announcements <announce@usml.net<mailto:announce@usml.net>><br>
> Cc: Frank Luby <zachfehsvater@yahoo.com<mailto:zachfehsvater@yahoo.com>><br>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> <br>
> What=92s a closer ...?<br>
> <br>
> Seriously though, I=92m with Andy. Gives a purpose and a strategy to those =<br>
> many many pitchers I refer to as DNH guys (as in =93do no harm=94).<br>
> <br>
> I would be fine with immediate implementation.<br>
> <br>
> - Frank<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
> <br>
>> On Feb 11, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Andy Klein <anrklein@gmail.com<mailto:anrkle=<br>
> in@gmail.com>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> I proposed this last spring and received a distinctly unenthusiastic resp=<br>
> onse. But I am re-proposing that we move to Saves + Holds as a category in=<br>
> stead of just Saves. That better reflects the reality of MLB pitching valu=<br>
> e today. It also would end what is, IMHO, an inordinate focus on playing t=<br>
> he "closer carousel" in our league.<br>
>> <br>
>> I would be up for doing this immediately -- and I say that as someone who=<br>
> will otherwise retain a closer. But I suppose the typical way of doing th=<br>
> is would be to make it effective next season.<br>
>> <br>
>> Last year, we agreed to implement the change if we voted to do so by mid-=<br>
> season. But the proposal died for lack of interest.<br>
>> <br>
>> Thoughts?<br>
>> <br>
>> -Andy<br>
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> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=<br>
> color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br>
> I also still prefer option A, however, to remind everybody, and at the risk=<br>
> of stating the obvious, the difference in using 2xSaves + H is a =<br>
> not so subtle difference than using S + H/2, as Frank attempted to poin=<br>
> t out in his analysis. Basically, using the<br>
> latter eliiminates the effect of actually emphasizing the saves category e=<br>
> ven more, which was the concern of some of us in wishing to introuduce the =<br>
> use of 'holds' as a category. The choice between S+H and S+H/2 is n=<br>
> ow a more clear cut choice on how much to<br>
> value holds....anyway, consider this a Public Service Announcement, that i=<br>
> s all.</div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div id=3D"appendonsend"></div><br>
> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=<br>
> or:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
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> <hr tabindex=3D"-1" style=3D"display:inline-block; width:98%"><br>
> <div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" co=<br>
> lor=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Announce <announce=<br>
> -bounces@usml.net> on behalf of Andy Klein <anrklein@gmail.com><br=<br>
>> <br>
> <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 3, 2019 5:27 PM<br><br>
> <b>To:</b> USML Announcements<br><br>
> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux</font><br>
> <div> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div dir=3D"auto">Not a B fan, for reasons previously given. Let's see wher=<br>
> e the votes end up ... & then count hanging chads, etc. :)</div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br><br>
> <div class=3D"x_gmail_quote"><br>
> <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 6:10 PM Jim =<br>
> Barrett <<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:chicagojab@gmail.com">mailto:chicagojab@gmail.com</a>">chicagojab@gmail.com</a=<br>
>> > wrote:<br><br>
> </div><br>
> <blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left=<br>
> :1px #ccc solid; padding-left:1ex"><br>
> <div dir=3D"auto">Looks like B has the momentum. Maybe some A voters (esp t=<br>
> he Prof who has been really pushing the issue) should consider switching to=<br>
> the B side to push it over the goal line. <br><br>
> <br><br>
> <div id=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent fro=<br>
> m my iPhone</div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
> <div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>
> On Mar 3, 2019, at 5:02 PM, springkerb--- via Announce <<a href=3D"mailt=<br>
> o:announce@usml.net" target=3D"_blank">announce@usml.net</a>> wrote:<br><br>
> <br><br>
> </div><br>
> <blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial, Helvetica,=<br>
> sans-serif"><br>
> <div>Ditto. Put me down for the amended Option B. It gets to th=<br>
> e same place (and implicitly demonstrates the obviously superior merit=<br>
> s of a weighted approach).</div><br>
> <div> </div><br>
> <div>Mark K</div><br>
> <div> </div><br>
> <div> </div><br>
> <div style=3D"color:black; font-family:arial,helvetica; font-size:10pt">---=<br>
> --Original Message-----<br><br>
> From: Jeffrey Winick <<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:jwinick@hwhlegal.com">mailto:jwinick@hwhlegal.com</a>" target=3D"=<br>
> _blank">jwinick@hwhlegal.com</a>><br><br>
> To: USML Announcements <<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:announce@usml.net">mailto:announce@usml.net</a>" target=3D"_=<br>
> blank">announce@usml.net</a>><br><br>
> Sent: Sun, Mar 3, 2019 3:08 pm<br><br>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br><br>
> <br><br>
> <div id=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982"><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982WordSection1"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:11pt">I vote for amended option B.</span></div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:11pt"> </span></div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Jeffrey H. Winick</span><b><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,=<br>
> 73,125)"></span></b></div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><b><span styl=<br>
> e=3D"font-size:10pt">H<span style=3D"font-variant:small-caps">arris Winick =<br>
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> =3D"font-size:10pt"><a href=3D"<a href="http://www.hwhlegal.com">http://www.hwhlegal.com</a>" rel=3D"noopener nor=<br>
> eferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">www.hwhlegal.com</a></span><b><sp=<br>
> an style=3D"font-size:10pt"><br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:11pt"> </span></div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982yqt4842809638" id=3D"x_m=<br>
> _-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982yqt75766"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><b><span styl=<br>
> e=3D"font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"> Announ=<br>
> ce [<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:announce-bounces@usml.net">mailto:announce-bounces@usml.net</a>" target=3D"_blank">mailto:a=<br>
> nnounce-bounces@usml.net</a>]<br>
> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andy Klein<br clear=3D"none"><br>
> <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 3, 2019 2:53 PM<br clear=3D"none"><br>
> <b>To:</b> USML Announcements<br clear=3D"none"><br>
> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux</span></div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">OK - taken as=<br>
> a "friendly amendment" to Option B.</div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">Again, I vote=<br>
> for Option A.</div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">-Andy</div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">On Sun, Mar 3=<br>
> , 2019 at 3:48 PM Jeffrey Winick <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:jwinick@hwhlegal.com=<br>
> " rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">jwinick@hwhl=<br>
> egal.com</a>> wrote:</div><br>
> </div><br>
> <blockquote style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1pt; border-style:no=<br>
> ne none none solid; border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor rgb=<br>
> (204,204,204); margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt; padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt"><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">Andy, </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal" style=3D"marg=<br>
> in-bottom:12pt"><br>
> I think that a vote of this sort is a great idea. However, the website only=<br>
> supports Saves + Holds/2. So I=92d strongly recommend that we vote on =<br>
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> On Mar 3, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Andy Klein <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:anrklein@gmail=<br>
> .com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">anrklein=<br>
> @gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br>
> </div><br>
> <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt; margin-bottom:5pt"><br>
> <div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">Starting agai=<br>
> n with the caveat that this is not an end-of-the world issue, I'm taking on=<br>
> e more swing at this.<br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">It seems we h=<br>
> ave a clear majority in favor of including holds in some fashion in our sco=<br>
> ring system in 2020. I propose a vote on one of two alternatives.</di=<br>
> v><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">A. Hold=<br>
> s + Saves</div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">B Holds=<br>
> + 2XSaves</div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">In the past, =<br>
> we haven't changed rules unless we have a strong majority in favor. C=<br>
> ommissioners ... can we vote and see where we stand? Knowing the=<br>
> outcome could have an impact on bidding this year.</div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">-Andy<br clea=<br>
> r=3D"none"><br>
> <br clear=3D"none"><br>
> PS: I vote for option A - Saves + Holds. :)</div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">On Wed, Feb 1=<br>
> 3, 2019 at 12:33 PM Andy Klein <<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:anrklein@gmail.com">mailto:anrklein@gmail.com</a>" re=<br>
> l=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">anrklein@gmail.c=<br>
> om</a>> wrote:</div><br>
> </div><br>
> <blockquote style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1pt; border-style:no=<br>
> ne none none solid; border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor rgb=<br>
> (204,204,204); margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt; padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt"><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">In the end, t=<br>
> his is not a huge issue to me, regardless of whether we stick with S, go to=<br>
> S+H or 2S+H. But it's kind of interesting, and I enjoy procr=<br>
> astinating during the lunch hour by looking at<br>
> it! </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">I suppose you=<br>
> could find odd comparisons either way, but I still like S+H better.&nb=<br>
> sp; Doubling the value of saves retains the huge value gap between 9th inni=<br>
> ng pitchers and others, and does much less<br>
> to reduce the dynamic that encourages our artificial chasing of the "=<br>
> closer carousel." So, to me, it's not just the relative rankings=<br>
> in the spreadsheets that Frank created. It's the gap. Here's o=<br>
> ne example. When you double the value of saves, Shane Greene<br>
> collects twice as many counting points as stronger pitchers like Colome, R=<br>
> obertson, and Betances. With S+H, Greene still ranks higher, gett=<br>
> ing the "bump" for being a 9th inning guy. But the gap is m=<br>
> uch narrower. That's a much better outcome in my view. </d=<br>
> iv><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">As for some o=<br>
> dd names showing up high in the S+H rankings (Alvarado, Roe, Trivino), =<br>
> that just reflects our longstanding bias. They are "no-names&quo=<br>
> t; to us because our scoring system doesn't place any<br>
> value on what they do even though they are good pitchers.</div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">-Andy &=<br>
> nbsp;</div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 1=<br>
> 2, 2019 at 12:57 PM springkerb--- via Announce <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:announ=<br>
> ce@usml.net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">a=<br>
> nnounce@usml.net</a>> wrote:</div><br>
> </div><br>
> <blockquote style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1pt; border-style:no=<br>
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> <div><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Not so slight. In the Luby comparison, Alvarado j=<br>
> umps from 10th to 3rd. Roe jumps from 14th to 6th. And a bunch =<br>
> of nobodies after about #20 go from the obscurity they<br>
> deserve to real value.</span></div><br>
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> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none"=<br>
>> <br>
> From: Blocker, Mark B. <<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:mblocker@sidley.com">mailto:mblocker@sidley.com</a>" rel=3D"no=<br>
> opener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">mblocker@sidley.com</a>=<br>
> ><br clear=3D"none"><br>
> To: USML Announcements <<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:announce@usml.net">mailto:announce@usml.net</a>" rel=3D"noop=<br>
> ener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">announce@usml.net</a>>=<br>
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> Sent: Tue, Feb 12, 2019 11:49 am<br clear=3D"none"><br>
> Subject: RE: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux</span></div><br>
> <div id=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982gmail-m_-845594080631526243=<br>
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> =3D"font-size:14pt">Point taken. =93Substantial value=94? Seems=<br>
> the likely impact is slight decrease in value of closers and slight increa=<br>
> se in value of some middle relievers. <br>
> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt"></span></div><br>
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> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux</span><span sty=<br>
> le=3D"font-size:10pt"></span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
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> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">To Jim's point re multiple holds being available per ga=<br>
> me, the main thing I was trying to do w/ my approach is to value both holds=<br>
> and saves equally,<br>
> <u>relative to the number of saves and holds available</u>. The ratio=<br>
> was pretty close to 2:1 last year (actually about 2.1:1). So if we g=<br>
> o to a 2:1 ratio, then we'd be valuing all available holds and all availabl=<br>
> e saves approximately equally. I think if<br>
> you look at Buddha's comparison, the most obvious and questionable shifts =<br>
> in value involve middle relievers that aren't particularly good pitchers bu=<br>
> t get a lot of appearances in the sixth or seventh inning--e.g., Chaz Roe.&=<br>
> nbsp; To me, those guys are greatly overvalued<br>
> by a 1:1 ratio. Particularly when you get down to the guys below abo=<br>
> ut the top 20, the 1:1 ratio gives substantial value to some guys who just =<br>
> aren't very good pitchers.</span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Mark</span></div><br>
> </div><br>
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> =3D"font-size:10pt">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none"><br>
> From: Jim Barrett <<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:chicagojab@gmail.com">mailto:chicagojab@gmail.com</a>" rel=3D"noopen=<br>
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> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux</span></div><br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">That=92s assuming that everyone=92s goal is to value sa=<br>
> ves and holds equally important. From my perspective, I=92d like to r=<br>
> ecognize holds as having some value but I still view<br>
> saves more important for several reasons. Like it or not but saves are an =<br>
> official statistic of MLB but I don=92t believe holds are. Only 1 save can =<br>
> be given out in a game whereas more than 1 hold can be given. Basebal=<br>
> l is a tradition bound game more than most<br>
> sports and the save and closer has the tradition behind it whereas holds d=<br>
> o not. If we all want to go total saber, we=92d get rid of Wins and BA too.=<br>
> So in sum if we make a change, I=92m in favor of weighting saves more heav=<br>
> ily. And no on future requests to have<br>
> a WAR or OPS+ category! :-) </span></div><br>
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> On Feb 12, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Blocker, Mark B. via Announce <<a href=3D"m=<br>
> ailto:announce@usml.net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=<br>
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> <div id=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982gmail-m_-845594080631526243=<br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:14pt">Want to give this more thought, but I think I agree wit=<br>
> h John=92s point that 2x saves puts too much emphasis on saves and defeats =<br>
> our goal of treating holds as equally important.</span><span style=3D"font-=<br>
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> =3D"font-size:14pt"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt"></span></di=<br>
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> <div><br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:14pt">Also, here are the options Onroto currently allows.&nbs=<br>
> p; I believe the math on option two works out the same as what some have pr=<br>
> oposed on a relative basis:</span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt"></span></d=<br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:14pt">HOSV (Holds + Saves)</span><span style=3D"font-size=<br>
> :10pt"></span></div><br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:14pt">SAVES2 (Saves + Holds / 2)</span><span style=3D"fon=<br>
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> e=3D"font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"> Announ=<br>
> ce <<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:announce-bounces@usml.net">mailto:announce-bounces@usml.net</a>" rel=3D"noopener norefer=<br>
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> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux</span><span sty=<br>
> le=3D"font-size:10pt"></span></div><br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Who cares what=92s most realistic. It=92s fantas=<br>
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> =3D"font-size:10pt">We give same weighting to SB as dingers. That=92=<br>
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> On Feb 12, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Frank Luby via Announce <<a href=3D"mailto:=<br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Good points, Mark.</span></div><br>
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> =3D"font-size:10pt">This version re-sorts the right-hand data to make Mark'=<br>
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> =3D"font-size:10pt">On Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 8:54:09 AM CST, springke=<br>
> rb <<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:springkerb@aol.com">mailto:springkerb@aol.com</a>" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" sh=<br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">To me, the 2x saves version does a better job of identi=<br>
> fying pitchers who can reliably hold a lead--which I think is what we're tr=<br>
> ying to measure here. For example, the<br>
> version that values saves and holds equally says that Jose Alvarado is thi=<br>
> rd in the league. He's a good reliever, but I don't think he was more=<br>
> reliablelast year than Trienen or Chapman. Similarly, the equally we=<br>
> ighted version says the Chaz Roe (Chaz Roe?)<br>
> was the sixth most reliable holder of leads in the AL. That's nuts.<=<br>
> /span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">In general, major league managers use their best reliev=<br>
> ers later in the games, and that makes sense, since holding a lead gets mor=<br>
> e valuable later in the game. A clean<br>
> ninth inning improves the team's likelihood of winning more when there are=<br>
> fewer innings left to play. So, at least to my eye, the 2x approach =<br>
> does a better job of rewarding better relievers. </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
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> =3D"font-size:10pt">To: USML Announcements <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:announce@u=<br>
> sml.net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">annou=<br>
> nce@usml.net</a>>, Frank Luby <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:zachfehsvater@yahoo.=<br>
> com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">zachfehsv=<br>
> ater@yahoo.com</a>>,<br>
> Andy Klein <<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:anrklein@gmail.com">mailto:anrklein@gmail.com</a>" rel=3D"noopener noref=<br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">What's apparent is that the 2x saves method seems to pu=<br>
> t even more statistical emphasis on the saves category, kinda defeating the=<br>
> purpose.</span></div><br>
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> =3D"font-size:10pt">To: Frank Luby <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:zachfehsvater@yaho=<br>
> o.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">zachfeh=<br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Cool. It's an interesting comparison.</span></div=<br>
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> =3D"font-size:10pt">Cc: springkerb <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:springkerb@aol.com=<br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
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> </div><br>
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> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
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> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">To throw some data into this discussion, here are the t=<br>
> op 50 relievers in the AL last season ranked by the SV+HLD method and t=<br>
> he 2xSV+HLD, in a side by side comparison<br>
> ...</span></div><br>
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> =3D"font-size:10pt">On Monday, February 11, 2019, 9:44:36 PM CST, springker=<br>
> b via Announce <<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:announce@usml.net">mailto:announce@usml.net</a>" rel=3D"noopener nor=<br>
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> =3D"font-size:10pt">I'd like you to reconsider the ratio. There are a=<br>
> bout twice as many holds as saves. Weighting them equally would actually ma=<br>
> ke the 7th and 8th inning guys more valuable<br>
> than closers, which just doesn't seem right.</span></div><br>
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> =3D"font-size:8.5pt">Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S=AE6 active, an AT&T =<br>
> 4G LTE smartphone</span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt"></span></div><br>
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> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div id=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982gmail-m_-845594080631526243=<br>
> 9gmail-m_-8452046286561511265gmail-m_-5880265916494247293yiv6475739962ydp2e=<br>
> 7e82b6yiv3731181299ydp49dd72eayiv0167555089yqt36973"><br>
> <div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">-------- Original message --------</span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">From: Andy Klein <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:anrklein@gmail.c=<br>
> om" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">anrklein@g=<br>
> mail.com</a>><br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Date: 2/11/19 7:33 PM (GMT-06:00)<br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">To: USML Announcements <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:announce@u=<br>
> sml.net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">annou=<br>
> nce@usml.net</a>><br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Cc: springkerb <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:springkerb@aol.com=<br>
> " rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">springkerb@a=<br>
> ol.com</a>><br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Nope ... we talked about it, but never voted on it.&nbs=<br>
> p; I'm actually advocating Saves + Holds, not 2XSaves + H=<br>
> olds. I'm fine with 2020 implementation. I'll wait another<br>
> day and then make a formal proposal. </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">-Andy</span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 7:02 PM springkerb via Announce=<br>
> <<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:announce@usml.net">mailto:announce@usml.net</a>" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=<br>
> =3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">announce@usml.net</a>><br>
> wrote:</span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <blockquote style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1pt; border-style:no=<br>
> ne none none solid; border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor rgb=<br>
> (204,204,204); margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt; padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt"><br>
> <div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">See my other email. Thought thiswas a done deal f=<br>
> or this year.</span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Mark</span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div id=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982gmail-m_-845594080631526243=<br>
> 9gmail-m_-8452046286561511265gmail-m_-5880265916494247293yiv6475739962ydp2e=<br>
> 7e82b6yiv3731181299ydp49dd72eayiv0167555089gmail-m_-2377757529899590271comp=<br>
> oser_signature"><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:8.5pt">Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S=AE6 active, an AT&T =<br>
> 4G LTE smartphone</span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt"></span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">-------- Original message --------</span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">From: Andy Klein <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:anrklein@gmail.c=<br>
> om" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">anrklein@g=<br>
> mail.com</a>><br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Date: 2/11/19 4:16 PM (GMT-06:00)<br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">To: USML Announcements <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:announce@u=<br>
> sml.net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">annou=<br>
> nce@usml.net</a>><br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">That's four quick positive responses. Eager to he=<br>
> ar others ... and whether people would generally prefer to implement in 202=<br>
> 0.<br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">-Andy</span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 5:01 PM JOHN FRUIT <<a href=<br>
> =3D"<a href="mailto:jtfruit@msn.com">mailto:jtfruit@msn.com</a>" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" targ=<br>
> et=3D"_blank">jtfruit@msn.com</a>> wrote:</span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <blockquote style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1pt; border-style:no=<br>
> ne none none solid; border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor rgb=<br>
> (204,204,204); margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt; padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt"><br>
> <div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Yeah, Josh Hader struck out like 50 Cubs in 10+ inn=<br>
> ings of work and had nary a save.</span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div id=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982gmail-m_-845594080631526243=<br>
> 9gmail-m_-8452046286561511265gmail-m_-5880265916494247293yiv6475739962ydp2e=<br>
> 7e82b6yiv3731181299ydp49dd72eayiv0167555089gmail-m_-2377757529899590271gmai=<br>
> l-m_-3820305355967092332x_composer_signature"><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:8.5pt">Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone</span>=<br>
> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt"></span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt"> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">-------- Original message --------</span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">From: Frank Luby via Announce <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:ann=<br>
> ounce@usml.net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank=<br>
> ">announce@usml.net</a>><br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Date: 2/11/19 3:38 PM (GMT-06:00)<br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">To: USML Announcements <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:announce@u=<br>
> sml.net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">annou=<br>
> nce@usml.net</a>><br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Cc: Frank Luby <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:zachfehsvater@yaho=<br>
> o.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">zachfeh=<br>
> svater@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> <div><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><br>
> <div class=3D"x_m_-1842704246558891413yiv7171773982MsoNormal"><span style=<br>
> =3D"font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux<br>
> </span></div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
> </div><br>
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> =3D"font-size:10pt">What=92s a closer ...?<br clear=3D"none"><br>
> <br clear=3D"none"><br>
> Seriously though, I=92m with Andy. Gives a purpose and a strategy to those =<br>
> many many pitchers I refer to as DNH guys (as in =93do no harm=94).<br clea=<br>
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> > On Feb 11, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Andy Klein <<a href=3D"<a href=""></a>mailto:anrklein=<br>
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> > <br clear=3D"none"><br>
> > I proposed this last spring and received a distinctly unenthusiastic r=<br>
> esponse. But I am re-proposing that we move to Saves + Holds as a=<br>
> category instead of just Saves. That better reflects the reality of =<br>
> MLB pitching value today. It also would end what<br>
> is, IMHO, an inordinate focus on playing the "closer carousel" i=<br>
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> doing this would be to make it effective next season.<br clear=3D"none"><br>
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