<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">League: So many emails before 10 am....I knew we could not just be discussing the Berliners' failed 2021 rotation draft strategy in which it selected a bunch of prospects who were drafted by NL teams (McLain, Watson, etc.) or refused to sign with their AL teams (Fabian). But I digress.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">When it comes to FAAB bidding, we long ago decided to simply follow whatever spits out of Onroto, and it was for the reason Andy identified -- it was too administratively difficult to do otherwise. Before we used Onroto, teams would submit bids via email, including contingent bids, and then I would manually compare them, applying the USML rules. When we switched to Onroto, we abandoned that process. I am not crystal clear how Onroto processes bids, but whatever it does, we have to go with that. For clarity, I will email Onroto to ask how this works.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Frank has a fair point that we should probably update our rules to reflect this change, but we have generally been slow to do that, and I do not think this is the only informal rule we follow. However, I would also ask for a measure of perspective about how outcome-determinative any of this is likely to be. As I understand it, Yimi Garcia is slated to be a set-up guy in Houston, not the closer, so while he will generate some counting stats, it probably will not decide the race. And while I am not willing to eat a bug, Jeff is quite right that this probably will not be the BJ Surhoff Stolen Base of 2021. We have now gone many years without a significant dispute, and it would be great to keep it that way.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"> -- Mark B.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 10:02 AM Bill Strotman via Announce <<a href="mailto:announce@usml.net">announce@usml.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Frank asking to put it to a vote Committee as a Whole ?<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 1, 2021, at 9:45 AM, Frank Luby via Announce <<a href="mailto:announce@usml.net" target="_blank">announce@usml.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Impossible to determine that anyway, because his presence affects too many successive decisions on who plays in a given week and who doesn’t.<div><br></div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 1, 2021, at 9:33 AM, Jeffrey Winick <<a href="mailto:jwinick@hwhlegal.com" target="_blank">jwinick@hwhlegal.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>
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their second bid block. So this is one of the situations in which we let onroto do its thing even though it departs from the written rules. I once whined and complained about this, but we decided not to try to override the system.
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