[USML Announce] **NOTICE OF HOT WAX SEAL**

Brad Jansen bljansen at gmail.com
Sun May 13 22:06:42 EDT 2007 

so in other words andy activates sweeney effective next sun then trade made
effective the sun after that?  wow. since everyone is so into the legalistic
tonight it pains me to point out to whoever the decisionmakers are that andy
did ask for guidance pre-noon today, as much as i hate to defend him...but
look and ye shall find his email about who's supposed to activate Sweeney
him or me, so i say in fairness ak should be allowed to activate Sweeney SUN
5/13 Mother's Day, with appropriate roster move so that he can trade him to
me eff. next sun. Andy, take whatever you want.  This  issue  is getting
boring.

anyway, curb your enthusiasm is on hbo-com now...speaking of irony....what
is this the 25th email about this transax....sheesh...where's the spam on
this friggin' thing....

cranked out,
blj
On 5/13/07, jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com> wrote:
>
> The irony, of course, is that Jim's rule was rejected in large part
> because of the maneuvering done by Mr. Klein to ensure that his proposal to
> ban trading prospects outright was considered before the
> reasonable alternative of adopting a June 1 limitation could be considered.
> More ironic yet is the fact that Andy will be the first team to trade a
> so-called magic bean in a dump trade this year.  In the immortal words of
> Arsenio Hall:  "the things that make you go hmmmm."
>
> Although I also find it ironic that but for Jim's objection, we would now
> be adopting the very rule that he proposed, it seems to me that in light of
> Jim's apparently vociferous objection, the rule must remain exactly as
> written.  Any trade between Brad and Andy will have to wait until one week
> after Andy activates Ryan Sweeney.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chicagojab at yahoo.com
> To: announce at usml.net
> Sent: Sun, 13 May 2007 9:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [USML Announce] **NOTICE OF HOT WAX SEAL**
>
> That's exactly what I'm suggesting.  I foresaw this exact possibility and
> proposed a rule to deal with it.  My idea was rejected in the voting.  Hence
> there needs to be a week delay on the transaction.
>
> *"Richard E. Robbins" <RERobbins at iTinker.net>* wrote:
>
> That's an interesting observation Jim.
>
> Are you suggesting that we specifically rejected what Andy seeks and that
> he needs to activate Sweeney and then wait a week before trading him to
> Brad?
>
> -- Rich
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Jim Barrett
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 13, 2007 10:56 AM
> *To:* USML Announcements
> *Subject:* RE: [USML Announce] **NOTICE OF HOT WAX SEAL**
>
>  These were the options.  I voted for 2A but 2B won.
>
> 2A.  Amend the USML Constitution by adding the following provision:
>
>  "From the commencement of the USML auction until June 1, if a player
> whose USML contract is not running is traded, that player will be deemed to
> be in the first year of his USML contract without regard to whether the
> acquiring owner rosters the player."
>
> 2B.  Amend the constitution by adding the following provision:
>
> "From the commencement of the USML auction until June 1, a team can not
> trade a player whose USML contract is not running."
>
>
> *Jim Barrett <chicagojab at yahoo.com>* wrote:
>
> I believe if you review the history, you'll see that I proposed the
> variant that the team trading the player away did not need to activate the
> prospect before the trade, provided that the acquiring team did so on
> receipt.  However, when we did the actual voting, my variant was not
> approved.  Rather, the winning variant was the "simpler" version
> that required the player's contract had to be running at the time of trade.
>
>
> *"Richard E. Robbins" <RERobbins at iTinker.net>* wrote:
>
> Me and Justice Scalia . . .
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Andrew R. Klein
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:23 AM
> *To:* USML Announcements
> *Subject:* Re: [USML Announce] **NOTICE OF HOT WAX SEAL**
>
>  Are you ignoring Jim Barrett's personal proclamations concerning the
> Barrett Rule?  You're probably the type that ignores Thomas Jefferson's
> statements concerning the Constitution ...
>
> Richard E. Robbins wrote:
>
> Legislative history?
>
> You might also recall that I circulated four possible variations of text
> for this rule that dealt with this issue specifically, however, in order to
> simplify things given the compressed time period in which we acted, I
> believe Jeff circulated the simplest variant.  Gee, maybe we should allow
> more time to fuss with rules.  Naah -- it's more fun this way.  (grin)
>
> -- Rich
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net<announce-bounces at usml.net>]
> *On Behalf Of *Andrew R. Klein
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:00 AM
> *To:* USML Announcements
> *Subject:* Re: [USML Announce] **NOTICE OF HOT WAX SEAL**
>
>  On the merits, I have no preference either way -- for this trade or
> future trades.  My recollection is that the creator of the rule -- Jim
> Barrett -- suggested that players could be activated by the receiving team.
>
> I will amend my usmltrans message on the assumption that the trade goes
> through this week, as that seems to be the consensus (Doug
> notwithstanding).  Brad -- don't forget to activate Sweeney!!!
>
> -Andy
>
>
> jhwinick at aol.com wrote:
>
> I agree with Rich on this one. It seems to me that as long as there is a consensus, either rule would be fine.     Is anyone else entertained (but not surprised) that its these   two gentlemen that are testing the parameters of the   new rule?     Jeff   Sent from my BlackBerry(r) wireless handheld      -----Original Message-----  From: "Richard E. Robbins" <RERobbins at iTinker.net> <RERobbins at iTinker.net>  Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 07:27:34   To:"'USML Announcements'" <announce at usml.net> <announce at usml.net>  Subject: RE: [USML Announce] **NOTICE OF HOT WAX SEAL**    I don't have a strong view either way on this one.    New Section 12.13 doesn't clearly address the matter.    I wouldn't object to permitting the activation of a player whose contract  isn't running to be coincident with the trade.    -- Rich     -----Original Message-----  From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net>]   On Behalf  Of Andrew R. Klein  Sent: Sunday, May   13, 2007 6:04 AM  To: USML Announcements  Subject: Re: [USML Announce] **NOTICE OF HOT WAX SEAL**    It occurs to me that this trade might not be effective until next Sunday, as  Sweeney's contract will not be "running" until today at noon.      Commissioners ... a ruling please.  I have Sweeney set to go active
>  today.  Does that mean he is a Riptorn this week or next week?    -Andy    Andrew R. Klein wrote:
>
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